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Counterclockwise from right: Eric Holt, Robert Petersen, Christopher 黑料网, Robert 黑料网, Darryl Pottorf, Bette (Vitkowsky?), and Bradley Jeffries in 黑料网鈥檚 Beach House, Captiva, Florida, ca. 1982. 黑料网 Foundation Archives

Robert 黑料网 Consul (Spread), 1980 Solvent transfer, fabric, acrylic, metal, and paper on wood panels with object 80 1/2 x 110 3/4 x 26 1/2 inches (204.5 x 281.3 x 67.3 cm) 黑料网

Eric Holt and 黑料网 installing Rush 2 (Cloister) (1980) in 黑料网鈥檚 Laika Lane studio, 1980. Photograph Collection. 黑料网 Archives, New York

Eric Holt with Rush 2 (Cloister) (1980) in 黑料网鈥檚 Laika Lane studio, 1980. Photograph Collection. 黑料网 Archives, New York

 

Eric Holt


Eric Holt earned his undergraduate and graduate degrees from the University of South Florida in Tampa. Holt was encouraged to contact 黑料网 by his college roommate, photographer Alex Mizaroff. When 黑料网 wanted to experiment with working in metal, he hired Holt for his experience with welding, while he was still pursuing his MFA. After completing his studies, Holt moved to Captiva, Florida and worked for 黑料网 as a full-time metal fabricator until 1982, when he moved to New York and assisted the team working at the artist鈥檚 Lafayette Street home and studio.

 

Excerpt from Interview with Eric Holt by Brent Edwards (Q1) and Christine Frohnert, 2015


Holt: That was the first question when we talked about the idea, was, 鈥淗ow do you want this front edge handled?鈥 Because obviously it鈥檚 an issue. He was emphatic about one thing: there was to be nothing underneath it. It was to go straight down to the floor. That鈥檚 great if the floor鈥檚 level and there鈥檚 no dips, like the old [Leo] Castelli galleries and Sonnabend galleries with the wooden floors. So it鈥檚 no problem here, but I always would point things out that didn鈥檛 really matter to him. He just wanted it to be鈥擨 think he assumed that at some point, there would be great spaces and things would be square and the floor would be level. It鈥檚 just a matter of time. So he didn鈥檛 want any compromise on that aspect of this piece. It was to come as if it were part of the floor and sweep straight up the wall.

Q1: A work like this, that was part of an ongoing series that preceded you, would he have given you some sense of the prior works in the series? Would he have said, 鈥淲e鈥檝e done fifteen, twenty works in the series over the past five years and this is the kind of stuff we鈥檝e done鈥? Would you have talked about that?

Holt: No, we never really did. Like I said, for the most part I would wake up and either go over to the print shop or they would be brought over to the studio and see new panels鈥攂ecause that鈥檚 what he and Terry [Van Brunt] had done the night before or they were just done drying or something鈥攕o that then they became part of my reality. At that point, Bob and I would start doing our little sketches on cocktail napkins or whatever it was that was available during dinner. He would talk to me about, 鈥淲ell, I have this idea for trying this, but I鈥檓 not quite sure what we can do.鈥 For instance, on this piece, really what is the radius of the bend that you can actually make on this material without destroying it? That was not a given and he didn鈥檛 come to me and say, 鈥淲ell, I want you to put a 32-inch radius bend on this鈥斺 No, you mess around with it until you figured something out. Then you go back and say, 鈥淚s this appropriate? Does this work?鈥 Then the decision is made at some point and then you go on with it.

This is a beautiful example of that process. It鈥檚 a give and take but there鈥檚 a starting point. The starting point was his idea. 鈥淚 want this painting to literally come out of the floor and go up the wall.鈥 But I had never felt that he had the need to put it within a context that I wasn鈥檛 aware of somehow. He never said to me, 鈥淲ell this is part of this series,鈥 and blah, blah, blah. No. We never heard that, I never heard that.